NOM

Why does the church remind me so much of a pyramid scheme or multi-level marketing fraud?

1. Baptism/Holy Ghost
2. Priesthood (men only)
3. Temple endowments
4. Celestial marriage (woman/women sealed to a man.)
5. Second Anointing (That's right, I said it. It is not too holy to be mentioned.... )

I've been reading Ernest Wilkinson's (Pres. of BYU from 1951-71, for you young folks) diarys. Why did the Church waffle back and forth from 1954 to 1962 about whether to move Ricks College (Now BYU-I) from Rexburg to Idaho Falls? :shock: Wilkinson says it's because Pres. McKay couldn't make up his ...

deacon blues wrote: ↑Fri Nov 28, 2025 4:23 pm But, but they've got raights.
And, you know God loves them more, and gave the special magic formulas that seal forever.

"Think Celestial."

Conference should only entail one day. And that day should be Sunday.
The sisters get the morning session and the brethren get the afternoon session. Each is a 90 minute session.

If you can't get it done in 180 minutes, you're being redundant or superfluous.

From Chat GPT (I love this thing): "The church did attempt to register “MORMON” as a service mark (for “religious services” / church-type services) — in 2002. The U.S. Patent and Trademark Office (USPTO) rejected the application: it judged “Mormon” to be a generic name for a group of believers — like ...

alas wrote: ↑Tue Nov 25, 2025 7:53 pm Wait, wasn’t it ruled already that “Mormon” is not a word that they can claim any kind of right to? But trust Oaks to ignore legal president as well as do a 180 on his predecessor.

I think you're right. I recall something about this in the courts back in the late 90's-early 20's....???

Unless the kid was gay, why would penises be a problem.

Maybe HE wasn't the one having the lustful thoughts?

I want to reply to Pale Rider, even if it is much later. I believe NDE's are subjective because they aren't shared. They have common characteristics, but they are all singular, individual experiences. I listened to Jeff Holland's NDE, and it seems very subjective. He's just saying the same old s ...

I've read of a few NDE's that reflect this, but again, I think that is subjective. Just curious as to why you might think this is subjective. Is it the diversity of descriptions in NDEs? Or do you question the veracity of the individual relating the account? I know I find Jeff Holland's recent ...

What do you think the church's end game is in trying to come clean with some of these things? I saw a photographic copy of this letter about 6 -7 years ago online and wondered: 1. How could the church continue to deny it? 2. How would they decide to spin it if they did recognize it? I think as with ...

If you watch this from start to finish it's not only informative but interesting on this subject. Not very long.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKevpBjecDE

What is the old parable about putting your hand in a bucket of water and then pulling it out? Here's the poem. The Indispensable Man Des Traynor by Saxon White Kessinger Sometime when you’re feeling important; Sometime when your ego ‘s in bloom; Sometime when you take it for granted, You’re the best ...

Yesterday Mrs. Hagoth and I both got emails from the church announcing the openhouse of the Salt Lake temple. This morning she pointed out that it is scheduled for more than two years from now? Whaaa? Mrs. H observed, "Nelson is just announcing it now because he knows he won't be alive to take all ...

I think a prime example of attempting to change the church "from within" would be Nemo the Mormon. He tried for a number of years until top leadership had had enough and then they excommunicated the "thorn in their side". I felt badly for him and although he was quite sincere I thought he was naive ...

I think the Savior used hyperbole in a number of his teachings. For example: "If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple." Or this: "Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I ...

Church leadership learned this from their demi-god Joseph. Many times, when he got in trouble, he found a good lawyer to get himself free. Lawyering your enemies to death is a great strategy. But this situation also puts into clear perspective, the churches sad tales of unjust persecution back in ...

It is interesting that the scriptures call this a "temple tax". So it isn't a Roman tax but it isn't designated as a tithing either. I may do some research on this. Were the Pharisees collecting an additional tax on top of tithing? Or is this the same donation that was given by the widow at the ...

I'm binge-watching "Suits" on Netflix. I never saw it when it first came out. 8-) The funny thing is that an episode the other night included the legal principle that if a corporation or individual "apologizes" for wrong-doing, they immediately become liable for damages. So it isn't that the church ...

Seeing that the Savior directed Peter where to find a fish that had swallowed a silver coin so that Peter could pay their temple taxes......I have to come to the conclusion that Heavenly Father just wasn't working with Joseph in the first place and never did. (Matt.17 24-27)

1 hour church is being tested in some locations right now. Heard this just yesterday. This way the corp can fit more wards into one building, sell off underused buildings and real estate and save money at the same time. Plus they get the added bonus of saying, "See, we're just like all the other ...