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				JW's Manual Seems...More Reasonable on Chastity
				Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2019 5:27 pm
				by justpassingthrough
				This is one of those "I'm not sure where to share this, so I guess I'll go to NOM" posts. I browse MormonLeaks every few months and learned they now released documents from other religions as well. They recently released the handbook used by JW leaders. I didn't spend much time looking at it (and there is definitely some screwed up stuff re: shunning and interactions with non-JWs) but I looked at what they taught on sexual immorality and they're much more permissive (i.e. not as repressive) than the Church. Masturbation is expressly ok'd (as is coppin a feel). They also say that if a couple getting close to marriage dry humps a couple times there's nothing to worry about. Like, my goodness, it's a very conservative set of rules for sex and it's still better than ours in some respects. 
I always thought JWs and Scientology was insane. It's always eye opening when I see my benchmark for insane seems more reasonable than my church.
Link if you're interested: 
https://truthandtransparency.org/news/2 ... op-leaders 
			
					
				Re: JW's Manual Seems...More Reasonable on Chastity
				Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2019 7:28 pm
				by BriansThoughtMirror
				Thanks for posting this!  I've spent a lot of time learning about Jehovah's Witnesses, mostly because it was interesting to analyze a similar (in many ways, at least) religion without being personally involved.  It helped me see I wasn't going crazy.
That policy is really interesting!  I bet we'd have a lot fewer mental problems within the Mormon ranks if the church had a similar policy.  I look forward to perusing that handbook- it's been talked about a lot within JW forums in the past.
			 
			
					
				Re: JW's Manual Seems...More Reasonable on Chastity
				Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2019 8:22 pm
				by oliblish
				justpassingthrough wrote:Masturbation is expressly ok'd (as is coppin a feel). They also say that if a couple getting close to marriage dry humps a couple times there's nothing to worry about.
Wow, that is surprising to me.  
Although I would guess most Mormons with temple marriages did most if not all of the above without too much trouble from the Bishop.  (I know I did.  Of course I didn’t mention most of it to him).
 
			
					
				Re: JW's Manual Seems...More Reasonable on Chastity
				Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2019 8:34 pm
				by 2bizE
				Is it OK to dry hump after you're married?
			 
			
					
				Re: JW's Manual Seems...More Reasonable on Chastity
				Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2019 9:47 pm
				by oliblish
				2bizE wrote:Is it OK to dry hump after you're married?
If you feel bad enough that you have to ask, then you shouldn’t do it.
 
			
					
				Re: JW's Manual Seems...More Reasonable on Chastity
				Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2019 8:53 pm
				by Reuben
				
			 
			
					
				Re: JW's Manual Seems...More Reasonable on Chastity
				Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2019 4:47 am
				by 1smartdodog
				I think few organizations have weaponized sex to their advantage more than the church. 
Of course I am just as opposed the the Hollywood version of sexual relations. 
Somewhere in the middle seems rational.