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Warm greetings to all!

Does anyone know of any LDS scripture, LDS church talk, latter-day prophecy that warned us against this pandemic in 2020? Since the covid-19 is officially a big deal around the world and has become something of historical significance, you would think that a prophet or someone besides Bill Gates (2015) would have seen this coming. I know the church did warn people about food storage, self-sufficiency and preparedness and I know that there are scriptures that reference pestilences, wars, etc. in the last days. What I am looking for is some indication that a prophet, seer or revelator warned people about this. After all, seers are supposed to see things coming. Are there any current warnings and predictions as to what is going to happen from now on? I know that being optimistic, and it will pass is good to calm anxiety. But should we not have some prediction about the future of this pandemic? Even the Spaniards are predicting a second and third wave. What are WE seers and revelators predicting?

The only thing I've read so far is Rusty saying we'll get through this thing and "there are wonderful days ahead."

He stated this in his latest address to church members. So if there is a second "wave" he might look kind of funny.
Although he could always say he didn't say precisely when those wonderful days would be......

Well, once upon a time they stressed food storage. Than the Cold War ended, the doomsday clock got set back, and the prophetic warnings dwindled to a suggestion of a 72 hour kit. People who try to associate the old food storage with the new pandemic are really reaching.

All the teaching about home-centered church were actually veiled prophecies about the pandemic! If we had all listened to what the were really saying instead of what we wanted to hear (Yay! One less hour of church!) then we would have known there were rough times ahead. It is totally our fault as weak lay-members for not understanding the voice of warning as it was given. <end heavy sarcasm>

No, there was no warning. If prophets, seers, and revelators knew this was going to happen and the best warning they could muster was a vague reference to self-reliance or home-centered church, then they are as culpable for the deaths of global citizens as Trump is for the climbing death toll in the United States.

Hagoth wrote: ↑Mon May 11, 2020 7:18 amPeople who try to associate the old food storage with the new pandemic are really reaching.

I know at least one lady who will tell you the focus on food storage never stopped, it just went to individual classes (Relief Society?) Supposedly not as much focus from "the pulpit" but focus all the same.

I personally didn't attend any classes like that, but then again, I'm an evil apostate, so anything I think/say/remember doesn't count.


Oh, and there was definitely not "Prophecy" or warning about this pandemic from LD$-Inc. Even Rusty admitted in one of the sessions of conference he didn't see it coming: Something about when he said it would be a "convention like no other" that he had no idea about COVID-19.

I was going through an old archive and found one from some guy with a beard (ancient prophet?). What he said sounded profound, "I do not always drink beer, but when I do, I prefer Dos Equis". Take that Corona!!!

moksha wrote: ↑Mon May 11, 2020 7:22 pm I was going through an old archive and found one from some guy with a beard (ancient prophet?). What he said sounded profound, "I do not always drink beer, but when I do, I prefer Dos Equis". Take that Corona!!!

I LOVE this bird, hangin out with us giving us things to smile and laugh about. The work of the Penguin moves forward and the world is better for it!

Apologeticsislying wrote: ↑Tue May 12, 2020 5:09 pm The work of the Penguin moves forward and the world is better for it!

Waddles forward. And no unhallowed hand nor leopard seal shall stop the work from progressing until the great Roald Amundsen shall say, "the work is done, now toss him a herring!"

The Lord isn't worried about such trivial things as covid-19. Death comes to us all. He is more concerned with scheduling changes and quorum reshuffling and so He inspires His trusted servant Rusty's pen to write new and inventive ways to conduct meetings, and run the organization, after doing the holy research on such things first.

Exiled wrote: ↑Wed May 13, 2020 9:56 am The Lord isn't worried about such trivial things as covid-19. Death comes to us all. He is more concerned with scheduling changes and quorum reshuffling and so He inspires His trusted servant Rusty's pen to write new and inventive ways to conduct meetings, and run the organization, after doing the holy research on such things first.

And how his foyers are decorated...

The prophet of Community of Christ, Stephen Veazey, changed the rules regarding the practice of the sacrament of the Lord's Supper last September. While that didn't predict the coronavirus, it clearly anticipated a need that we have now. As a result of the preemptive change, Community of Christ members have been able to receive the sacrament over Zoom during self-isolation.

John Hamer wrote: ↑Wed May 13, 2020 8:06 pm The prophet of Community of Christ, Stephen Veazey, changed the rules regarding the practice of the sacrament of the Lord's Supper last September. While that didn't predict the coronavirus, it clearly anticipated a need that we have now. As a result of the preemptive change, Community of Christ members have been able to receive the sacrament over Zoom during self-isolation.

This is pretty amazing, especially given that active members today would scoff at this while claiming the "home centered church" is the true revelation of coronavirus.

I like the Catholic idea of small individual sacramental wine cups with foil lids. Keeping a six-pack in the fridge for pandemics would come in handy, as would a box of Ritz crackers.

(Look, no matter how hard you twist my flipper, I am not going to say Jesus 'N Crackers)

No, but members will surely make up a revelation. In 50 years it will be known as how RMN saved the world from Coronavirus....one of Elder Holland’s grandchildren will be in the Q15 and will tell a story about a guy in his mission during corona that met a biker guy who had corona and he was saved thanks to the great revelations by RMN.... Mark me, there will be made up stories of how church leaders saved the day during the coronavirus pandemic.

John Hamer wrote: ↑Wed May 13, 2020 8:06 pm The prophet of Community of Christ, Stephen Veazey, changed the rules regarding the practice of the sacrament of the Lord's Supper last September. While that didn't predict the coronavirus, it clearly anticipated a need that we have now. As a result of the preemptive change, Community of Christ members have been able to receive the sacrament over Zoom during self-isolation.

What changes were these John?

2bizE wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2020 3:15 pm What changes were these John?

We can now celebrate the sacrament simultaneously in multiple remote locations. If a person is in Antarctica, and is not in priesthood, he can mindfully prepare emblems. Then, live at a remote location, a priest or Melchisedec priesthood holder can read the blessing on the bread and the wine over the phone or online. The person in Antarctica can then take the sacrament remotely.

That makes perfect sense. If radio waves can reach Antarctica I'm sure Priesthood waves can. Or maybe it only works for the CoC frequency. Maybe the Brighamite Priesthood emanations bounce off walls or have aggressive signal attenuation. Also not a lot of bandwidth, otherwise the prophet could just do all of the temple work for all of the dead in one fell swoop.

græy wrote: ↑Mon May 11, 2020 8:03 am
No, there was no warning. If prophets, seers, and revelators knew this was going to happen and the best warning they could muster was a vague reference to self-reliance or home-centered church, then they are as culpable for the deaths of global citizens as Trump is for the climbing death toll in the United States.

Wow...made me chuckle.

Prophecy in Mormonism is like Nostradamus. You can only tell after the fact and then you have to do a lot of mental contorting to make it work.