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The legalistic Oaks era has begun
Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2025 3:38 pm
by Hagoth
Remember when it was a victory for Satan to use the word Mormon, and church members were told to avoid it like a thing of pure evil?
Suddenly podcasters and bloggers are getting letters from church lawyers demanding that they stop using the word "Mormon." The reason? It's OUR trademark and you're unlawfully stealing our identity. I'm not sure who all has received this warning, but John Dehlin reports that Mormon stories has.
I don't eat soup, but no soup for you either!
This could be fun to watch.
Re: The legalistic Oaks era has begun
Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2025 7:53 pm
by alas
Wait, wasn’t it ruled already that “Mormon” is not a word that they can claim any kind of right to? But trust Oaks to ignore legal president as well as do a 180 on his predecessor.
Re: The legalistic Oaks era has begun
Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2025 12:55 pm
by Palerider
alas wrote: ↑Tue Nov 25, 2025 7:53 pm
Wait, wasn’t it ruled already that “Mormon” is not a word that they can claim any kind of right to? But trust Oaks to ignore legal president as well as do a 180 on his predecessor.
I think you're right. I recall something about this in the courts back in the late 90's-early 20's....???
Re: The legalistic Oaks era has begun
Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2025 1:01 pm
by Palerider
From Chat GPT (I love this thing):
"The church did attempt to register “MORMON” as a service mark (for “religious services” / church-type services) — in 2002.
The U.S. Patent and Trademark Office (USPTO) rejected the application: it judged “Mormon” to be a generic name for a group of believers — like “Presbyterian” or “Methodist” — and therefore not eligible for exclusive registration as a service mark.
As a result, the Church gave up on that application (i.e. the application was abandoned) by 2007.
In short — “Mormon” is considered by USPTO to be generic/descriptive, so it can’t be trademarked in the sense of being proprietary to one group."
Re: The legalistic Oaks era has begun
Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2025 4:23 pm
by deacon blues
But, but they've got raights.
And, you know God loves them more, and gave the special magic formulas that seal forever.
Re: The legalistic Oaks era has begun
Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2025 4:39 pm
by alas
I think those of us who remember this should come out openly and loudly in support of the podcasters and who ever the church is trying to bully out of using a perfectly good word. They could not make the word “Mormon” disappear by calling its use a victory for Satan, so now they are going to try to make the word go away by bullying anyone who uses it. No, it is not *their* word. Everyone owns this generic word for a group of people who identify as Mormon. They couldn’t guilt me into not using it, and they cannot threaten me into not using it. It is NOT their trade marked word and they cannot trademark it as theirs. And they don’t get to say who uses the word. And we can use it if we want.
Re: The legalistic Oaks era has begun
Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2025 11:00 am
by Palerider
deacon blues wrote: ↑Fri Nov 28, 2025 4:23 pm
But, but they've got raights.
And, you know God loves them more, and gave the special magic formulas that seal forever.
"Think Celestial."
Re: The legalistic Oaks era has begun
Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2025 12:03 pm
by 2bizE
alas wrote: ↑Tue Nov 25, 2025 7:53 pm
Wait, wasn’t it ruled already that “Mormon” is not a word that they can claim any kind of right to? But trust Oaks to ignore legal president as well as do a 180 on his predecessor.
Yes, I remember that from about 20 years ago (or more)