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- Tue Nov 25, 2025 3:38 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: The legalistic Oaks era has begun
- Replies: 7
- Views: 14414
The legalistic Oaks era has begun
Remember when it was a victory for Satan to use the word Mormon, and church members were told to avoid it like a thing of pure evil? Suddenly podcasters and bloggers are getting letters from church lawyers demanding that they stop using the word "Mormon." The reason? It's OUR trademark and you're ...
- Tue Nov 25, 2025 3:31 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Offering a trade to apologists
- Replies: 2
- Views: 3966
Re: Offering a trade to apologists
I'm not an apologist, and I do see those two examples as comparable. I am convinced a lot of our differences are motivated by something other than the facts or data. Some things that we all are affected by: Bias and Pride, for example. Facts alone will not convince an opponent. Facts coupled with ...
- Tue Nov 25, 2025 3:30 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Pornography and the eye of the beholder
- Replies: 9
- Views: 23610
Re: Pornography and the eye of the beholder
So penises are evil, but a woman's breast is perfectly fine? Man, there is some weird sexism with their definition of pornography. Insert a reference to the movie ZARDOZ here... Although there are certainly exceptions, Greek art usually has men naked and women clothed. Ha. I saw Zardoz at the drive ...
- Sun Nov 16, 2025 5:52 pm
- Forum: The Coffee Shop
- Topic: Keeping up with Trump
- Replies: 1176
- Views: 7786109
Re: Keeping up with Trump
After that river in Africa?
So, she's also a Mormon.
- Sun Nov 16, 2025 5:35 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Where's the beef (artifacts)?!
- Replies: 4
- Views: 19553
Re: Where's the beef (artifacts)?!
The Etruscan civilization was a proto-Roman society that is a good comparison to the Nephites in size, time period, influence and material culture. There are many museums filled with their artifacts: https://www.romecabs.com/upload/CONF99/20210930/Etruscan_Museums_Vatican__Etruscan_Tours_in_Italy ...
- Sun Nov 16, 2025 5:12 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Offering a trade to apologists
- Replies: 2
- Views: 3966
Offering a trade to apologists
Hey BoM apologists. You tell me that three of these South Arabic letters (can you find 'em?) are the Hebrew equivalent to NHM, which you say spells Nahom, which you claim is the location described in the BoM. Kinda seems like a not-all-that-impressive coincidence to me. https://imgs.search.brave.com ...
- Thu Nov 13, 2025 9:58 am
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Pornography and the eye of the beholder
- Replies: 9
- Views: 23610
Pornography and the eye of the beholder
Mrs. Hagoth was sharing travel notes with a TBM neighbor. The neighbor (mother of one of the newest GAs) talked about what a horrible experience they had visiting Athens. They were shocked and disgusted by the pornography EVERYWHERE The conversation went something like: Mrs. H: "Wow, things must ...
- Sat Nov 08, 2025 8:25 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Where's the beef (artifacts)?!
- Replies: 4
- Views: 19553
Re: Where's the beef (artifacts)?!
I find it interesting that we found the site of Troy, the city from the Homer's The Illiad . We don't know if there really was a giant wooden horse, but we know where the city was. For the BOM, a book supposed not even as old as The Illiand , we sure don't have any evidence of anything that it ...
- Sat Nov 08, 2025 8:08 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: The wacky world of Martin Harris
- Replies: 3
- Views: 9747
Re: The wacky world of Martin Harris
Thanks for all the interesting history Hagoth. It seems to me that Martin Harris' support for the early church is a big blow to it's credibility. Like my conspiracy theory-believing dad's support for the current church was a big blow to my view of it's credibility... Yeah, church members never hear ...
- Tue Nov 04, 2025 9:28 am
- Forum: Support
- Topic: The wacky world of Martin Harris
- Replies: 3
- Views: 9747
The wacky world of Martin Harris
The Mormonism Live discussion of Martin Harris is very entertaining and well worth the listen. There are some interesting points they overlooked regarding the Harris/Anthon encounter that I think are worth mentioning: -The story we have in church history is not Martin's first person account. It is a ...
- Tue Nov 04, 2025 9:20 am
- Forum: Support
- Topic: I heard Moksha passed away recently…
- Replies: 12
- Views: 58298
Re: I heard Moksha passed away recently…
Oh no. Even though I never met him, I considered Moksha a friend. We checked in with each other from time to time via PM. I tried many times to coerce him into meeting in real life but he always declined. I had the impression that he was quite old and not well. He told me a couple of times that he ...
- Mon Nov 03, 2025 7:17 am
- Forum: The Coffee Shop
- Topic: Keeping up with Trump
- Replies: 1176
- Views: 7786109
Re: Keeping up with Trump
It would be sad to be Donald Trump. He hates a lot of people. Imagine thinking that some people admire you for your ability to hate others, to promote hate. Imagine thinking that Christians(!!!)admire you because you promote hate. No one misunderstands or abuses Jesus more than Christians. In the ...
- Mon Nov 03, 2025 7:14 am
- Forum: Mixed Faith Relationships
- Topic: What are the odds?
- Replies: 3
- Views: 69320
Re: What are the odds?
Do you ever have moments when you think there is a possibility that Hinduism, or Buddhism, or Daoism is true? I probably have those at least as often, and to a similar degree, as I do that the LDS faith might be true. That is also a tack I like to take with LDS people (on the rare occasion that they ...
- Mon Nov 03, 2025 7:08 am
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Trying to find a Dallin Oaks quote
- Replies: 3
- Views: 7316
Re: Trying to find a Dallin Oaks quote
I would like to take this chain of though back even further. There was once a time when people were connected with the earth and the sky as their deities. Then priests came along and started making a living by inventing gods, bossing people around, and tricking them out of their wealth and ...
- Mon Nov 03, 2025 7:05 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Where's the beef (artifacts)?!
- Replies: 4
- Views: 19553
Where's the beef (artifacts)?!
The lovely Mrs. Hagoth and I just got back from a couple of weeks in Greece. We visited many ruins and many museums and were overwhelmed by the sheer quantity of material cultural these people left behind, from which archeologists and historians can sleuth the tiniest details of their lives. Every ...
- Mon Nov 03, 2025 6:57 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Founding Fathers
- Replies: 3
- Views: 9747
Re: Founding Fathers
Like everything else, the Mormon church has stolen the story of the Founding Fathers and made them our property. In August 1877, Wilford Woodruff reported having a vision in the St. George Temple where the Founding Fathers of the United States, including the signers of the Declaration of ...
- Sat Oct 18, 2025 12:19 am
- Forum: Support
- Topic: If I was the PR Director of the Church…
- Replies: 6
- Views: 13421
Re: If I was the PR Director of the Church…
... If I was the PR Director, I’d cancel the regurgitation and focus on treating humans with kindness and saving the world from real problems. Think of all the good the church could do instead of reshaping the same old ball of play-dough. Honestly this is one of my biggest issues with MORmONism.. ...
RMN
This week I have been bombarded with constant and gushing words of amazement about what an remarkable, unique, and brilliant man RMN was: world-class surgeon, spoke multiple languages, accomplished musician, photographic memory, brilliantly insightful and intellectual... My question is, what did he ...
Chiasmus?
I just listened to RFM's podcast about chiasmus. If you haven't heard it, he reviews one of his own podcasts and finds it filled with chiasms. He concludes that he must be an Israelite from 600BC. I decided to look for chiasms elsewhere with the help of ChatGPT. Here are a few I found: Donald Trump ...
- Fri Oct 03, 2025 8:37 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Transfer of Prophetic Mantel Discussion
- Replies: 4
- Views: 35314
Re: Transfer of Prophetic Mantel Discussion
Maybe there's a secret Holy Handbook™ somewhere that documents how they take care of the Magick spells needed to make H.Oaks think he has "all the power." When Moroni showed the gold plates to David and Oliver, David Whitmer said Moroni materialized a table with a lot of goodies on it, including t ...