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by Hagoth
Tue Nov 25, 2025 3:38 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: The legalistic Oaks era has begun
Replies: 7
Views: 14414

The legalistic Oaks era has begun

Remember when it was a victory for Satan to use the word Mormon, and church members were told to avoid it like a thing of pure evil? Suddenly podcasters and bloggers are getting letters from church lawyers demanding that they stop using the word "Mormon." The reason? It's OUR trademark and you're ...
by Hagoth
Tue Nov 25, 2025 3:31 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Offering a trade to apologists
Replies: 2
Views: 3966

Re: Offering a trade to apologists

I'm not an apologist, and I do see those two examples as comparable. I am convinced a lot of our differences are motivated by something other than the facts or data. Some things that we all are affected by: Bias and Pride, for example. Facts alone will not convince an opponent. Facts coupled with ...
by Hagoth
Tue Nov 25, 2025 3:30 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Pornography and the eye of the beholder
Replies: 9
Views: 23610

Re: Pornography and the eye of the beholder

So penises are evil, but a woman's breast is perfectly fine? Man, there is some weird sexism with their definition of pornography. Insert a reference to the movie ZARDOZ here... Although there are certainly exceptions, Greek art usually has men naked and women clothed. Ha. I saw Zardoz at the drive ...
by Hagoth
Sun Nov 16, 2025 5:52 pm
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: Keeping up with Trump
Replies: 1176
Views: 7786109

Re: Keeping up with Trump

alas wrote: Sat Nov 15, 2025 10:58 am ...denial is her first name.
After that river in Africa?
alas wrote: Sat Nov 15, 2025 10:58 am Several things that she used to claim were deal breakers for her, and she just refuses to accept reality. She does not want to know because then she would have to see that she is wrong.
So, she's also a Mormon.
by Hagoth
Sun Nov 16, 2025 5:35 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Where's the beef (artifacts)?!
Replies: 4
Views: 19553

Re: Where's the beef (artifacts)?!

The Etruscan civilization was a proto-Roman society that is a good comparison to the Nephites in size, time period, influence and material culture. There are many museums filled with their artifacts: https://www.romecabs.com/upload/CONF99/20210930/Etruscan_Museums_Vatican__Etruscan_Tours_in_Italy ...
by Hagoth
Sun Nov 16, 2025 5:12 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Offering a trade to apologists
Replies: 2
Views: 3966

Offering a trade to apologists

Hey BoM apologists. You tell me that three of these South Arabic letters (can you find 'em?) are the Hebrew equivalent to NHM, which you say spells Nahom, which you claim is the location described in the BoM. Kinda seems like a not-all-that-impressive coincidence to me. https://imgs.search.brave.com ...
by Hagoth
Thu Nov 13, 2025 9:58 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Pornography and the eye of the beholder
Replies: 9
Views: 23610

Pornography and the eye of the beholder

Mrs. Hagoth was sharing travel notes with a TBM neighbor. The neighbor (mother of one of the newest GAs) talked about what a horrible experience they had visiting Athens. They were shocked and disgusted by the pornography EVERYWHERE The conversation went something like: Mrs. H: "Wow, things must ...
by Hagoth
Sat Nov 08, 2025 8:25 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Where's the beef (artifacts)?!
Replies: 4
Views: 19553

Re: Where's the beef (artifacts)?!

I find it interesting that we found the site of Troy, the city from the Homer's The Illiad . We don't know if there really was a giant wooden horse, but we know where the city was. For the BOM, a book supposed not even as old as The Illiand , we sure don't have any evidence of anything that it ...
by Hagoth
Sat Nov 08, 2025 8:08 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: The wacky world of Martin Harris
Replies: 3
Views: 9747

Re: The wacky world of Martin Harris

Thanks for all the interesting history Hagoth. It seems to me that Martin Harris' support for the early church is a big blow to it's credibility. Like my conspiracy theory-believing dad's support for the current church was a big blow to my view of it's credibility... Yeah, church members never hear ...
by Hagoth
Tue Nov 04, 2025 9:28 am
Forum: Support
Topic: The wacky world of Martin Harris
Replies: 3
Views: 9747

The wacky world of Martin Harris

The Mormonism Live discussion of Martin Harris is very entertaining and well worth the listen. There are some interesting points they overlooked regarding the Harris/Anthon encounter that I think are worth mentioning: -The story we have in church history is not Martin's first person account. It is a ...
by Hagoth
Tue Nov 04, 2025 9:20 am
Forum: Support
Topic: I heard Moksha passed away recently…
Replies: 12
Views: 58298

Re: I heard Moksha passed away recently…

Oh no. Even though I never met him, I considered Moksha a friend. We checked in with each other from time to time via PM. I tried many times to coerce him into meeting in real life but he always declined. I had the impression that he was quite old and not well. He told me a couple of times that he ...
by Hagoth
Mon Nov 03, 2025 7:17 am
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: Keeping up with Trump
Replies: 1176
Views: 7786109

Re: Keeping up with Trump

It would be sad to be Donald Trump. He hates a lot of people. Imagine thinking that some people admire you for your ability to hate others, to promote hate. Imagine thinking that Christians(!!!)admire you because you promote hate. No one misunderstands or abuses Jesus more than Christians. In the ...
by Hagoth
Mon Nov 03, 2025 7:14 am
Forum: Mixed Faith Relationships
Topic: What are the odds?
Replies: 3
Views: 69320

Re: What are the odds?

Do you ever have moments when you think there is a possibility that Hinduism, or Buddhism, or Daoism is true? I probably have those at least as often, and to a similar degree, as I do that the LDS faith might be true. That is also a tack I like to take with LDS people (on the rare occasion that they ...
by Hagoth
Mon Nov 03, 2025 7:08 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Trying to find a Dallin Oaks quote
Replies: 3
Views: 7316

Re: Trying to find a Dallin Oaks quote

I would like to take this chain of though back even further. There was once a time when people were connected with the earth and the sky as their deities. Then priests came along and started making a living by inventing gods, bossing people around, and tricking them out of their wealth and ...
by Hagoth
Mon Nov 03, 2025 7:05 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Where's the beef (artifacts)?!
Replies: 4
Views: 19553

Where's the beef (artifacts)?!

The lovely Mrs. Hagoth and I just got back from a couple of weeks in Greece. We visited many ruins and many museums and were overwhelmed by the sheer quantity of material cultural these people left behind, from which archeologists and historians can sleuth the tiniest details of their lives. Every ...
by Hagoth
Mon Nov 03, 2025 6:57 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Founding Fathers
Replies: 3
Views: 9747

Re: Founding Fathers

Like everything else, the Mormon church has stolen the story of the Founding Fathers and made them our property. In August 1877, Wilford Woodruff reported having a vision in the St. George Temple where the Founding Fathers of the United States, including the signers of the Declaration of ...
by Hagoth
Sat Oct 18, 2025 12:19 am
Forum: Support
Topic: If I was the PR Director of the Church…
Replies: 6
Views: 13421

Re: If I was the PR Director of the Church…

... If I was the PR Director, I’d cancel the regurgitation and focus on treating humans with kindness and saving the world from real problems. Think of all the good the church could do instead of reshaping the same old ball of play-dough. Honestly this is one of my biggest issues with MORmONism.. ...
by Hagoth
Tue Oct 07, 2025 11:12 am
Forum: Support
Topic: RMN
Replies: 7
Views: 14076

RMN

This week I have been bombarded with constant and gushing words of amazement about what an remarkable, unique, and brilliant man RMN was: world-class surgeon, spoke multiple languages, accomplished musician, photographic memory, brilliantly insightful and intellectual... My question is, what did he ...
by Hagoth
Sat Oct 04, 2025 9:37 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Chiasmus?
Replies: 0
Views: 7431

Chiasmus?

I just listened to RFM's podcast about chiasmus. If you haven't heard it, he reviews one of his own podcasts and finds it filled with chiasms. He concludes that he must be an Israelite from 600BC. I decided to look for chiasms elsewhere with the help of ChatGPT. Here are a few I found: Donald Trump ...
by Hagoth
Fri Oct 03, 2025 8:37 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Transfer of Prophetic Mantel Discussion
Replies: 4
Views: 35314

Re: Transfer of Prophetic Mantel Discussion

Maybe there's a secret Holy Handbook™ somewhere that documents how they take care of the Magick spells needed to make H.Oaks think he has "all the power." When Moroni showed the gold plates to David and Oliver, David Whitmer said Moroni materialized a table with a lot of goodies on it, including t ...