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								20/20hind 							 
									
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								by 20/20hind  Sun Jun 18, 2017 11:45 am 
			
			
			
			
			
			Wife is the girls camp director and this year they are going on a 2 day guided rafting trip in utah.  Which i think is really cool for my wife to do that.  
Take a guess what you think the camp theme is for this trip?  It shouldn't be to difficult  
 
		 
				
		
		 
	 
				
		
		
			
				
								Hagoth 							 
									
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								by Hagoth  Sun Jun 18, 2017 12:01 pm 
			
			
			
			
			
			Satan rules the water!
			
			
									
						
							“The easy confidence with which I know another man's religion is folly teaches me to suspect that my own is also.”     -Mark Twain
			
						 
		 
				
		
		 
	 
				
		
		
			
				
								w2mz 							 
									
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								by w2mz  Sun Jun 18, 2017 12:32 pm 
			
			
			
			
			
			Honoring the Priesthood
			
			
									
						
							The church has engineered your eternal family into a commodity that can be purchased with an annual fee. The fact that full tithing payment is a requirement for saving ordinances is the biggest red flag imaginable. Hagoth
			
						 
		 
				
		
		 
	 
				
		
		
			
				
								SeeNoEvil 							 
									
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								by SeeNoEvil  Sun Jun 18, 2017 12:38 pm 
			
			
			
			
			
			"Stay in the boat and hold on," - Ballard
			
			
									
						
							"Every event that has taken place in this universe has led you to this moment.
			
						 
		 
				
		
		 
	 
				
		
		
			
				
																			
								didyoumythme 							 
									
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								by didyoumythme  Sun Jun 18, 2017 1:00 pm 
			
			
			
			
			
			1. The joy of motherhood 
			
			
									
						
							When an honest man discovers he is mistaken, he will either cease being honest, or cease being mistaken. - Anonymous
			
						 
		 
				
		
		 
	 
				
		
		
			
				
								Liberated Me 							 
									
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								by Liberated Me  Sun Jun 18, 2017 1:01 pm 
			
			
			
			
			
			"Joseph Smith is a Hero"
			
			
									
						
							“As I walked out the door toward the gate that would lead to my freedom, I knew if I didn’t leave my bitterness and hatred behind, I’d still be in prison.”  ~Nelson Mandela~
			
						 
		 
				
		
		 
	 
				
		
		
			
				
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								by wtfluff  Sun Jun 18, 2017 1:27 pm 
			
			
			
			
			
			In no particular order...
Religious "Freedom" AKA: Reinforce the persecution complex. 
The Proclamation against  the family. (No that's not a typo, just the truth.) 
Modesty 
Priesthood 
Sabbath Day Observance 
I shall return and edit as I come up with more stupid guesses.
 
		 
				
		
		 
	 
				
		
		
			
				
																			
								20/20hind 							 
									
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								by 20/20hind  Sun Jun 18, 2017 2:23 pm 
			
			
			
			
			
			SeeNoEvil  wrote: ↑ Sun Jun 18, 2017 12:38 pm 
"Stay in the boat and hold on," - Ballard
See no evil for the win!
The boat is the gospel.  The scriptures are the life vests and the river guides are the prophets and apostles.  
That is how it was portrayed in the info for camp...fun stuff
 
		 
				
		
		 
	 
				
		
		
			
				
								Hagoth 							 
									
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								by Hagoth  Sun Jun 18, 2017 2:25 pm 
			
			
			
			
			
			20/20hind  wrote: ↑ Sun Jun 18, 2017 2:23 pm The boat is the gospel.
But you're so much safer on the shore.
“The easy confidence with which I know another man's religion is folly teaches me to suspect that my own is also.”     -Mark Twain
			
						 
		 
				
		
		 
	 
				
		
		
			
				
								SeeNoEvil 							 
									
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								by SeeNoEvil  Sun Jun 18, 2017 2:31 pm 
			
			
			
			
			
			20/20hind  wrote: ↑ Sun Jun 18, 2017 2:23 pm SeeNoEvil  wrote: ↑ Sun Jun 18, 2017 12:38 pm 
"Stay in the boat and hold on," - Ballard
See no evil for the win!
The boat is the gospel.  The scriptures are the life vests and the river guides are the prophets and apostles.  
That is how it was portrayed in the info for camp...fun stuff
Hot dam*!  Doing the happy dance!  What do I win? .....  
"Every event that has taken place in this universe has led you to this moment.
			
						 
		 
				
		
		 
	 
				
		
		
			
				
																			
								20/20hind 							 
									
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								by 20/20hind  Sun Jun 18, 2017 3:33 pm 
			
			
			
			
			
			Well i could send you a nice stay in the boat neckalce left over from the trip 
 
		 
				
		
		 
	 
				
		
		
			
				
																			
								20/20hind 							 
									
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								by 20/20hind  Sun Jun 18, 2017 3:34 pm 
			
			
			
			
			
			Hagoth  wrote: ↑ Sun Jun 18, 2017 2:25 pm 20/20hind  wrote: ↑ Sun Jun 18, 2017 2:23 pm The boat is the gospel.
But you're so much safer on the shore.
Jesus left a boat once also...
 
		 
				
		
		 
	 
				
		
		
			
				
																			
								Corsair 							 
									
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								by Corsair  Sun Jun 18, 2017 3:45 pm 
			
			
			
			
			
			How about "You can't do anything unless priesthood is around."
			
			
									
						
										
						 
		 
				
		
		 
	 
				
		
		
			
				
																			
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								by 20/20hind  Sun Jun 18, 2017 7:16 pm 
			
			
			
			
			
			Corsair  wrote: ↑ Sun Jun 18, 2017 3:45 pm 
How about "You can't do anything unless priesthood is around."
I tease dw about having relief society sister's go on scout camp outs to make sure the boys are being nurtured enough.  Its only fair.
 
		 
				
		
		 
	 
				
		
		
			
				
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								by moksha  Sun Jun 18, 2017 7:41 pm 
			
			
			
			
			
			Float your boat before you float your faith.
			
			
									
						
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								by hmb  Mon Jun 19, 2017 4:20 am 
			
			
			
			
			
			Hmmmm. Floaters are better than sinkers. Sorry, couldn't help myself 
 . Why can't they just have a rafting trip and do the spiritual stuff back at camp?
 
		 
				
		
		 
	 
				
		
		
			
				
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								by blazerb  Mon Jun 19, 2017 7:01 am 
			
			
			
			
			
			I've got that cheesy music from "Morality for Youth" in my head after reading this. Am I the only one?
			
			
									
						
										
						 
		 
				
		
		 
	 
				
		
		
			
				
																			
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								by Corsair  Mon Jun 19, 2017 7:55 am 
			
			
			
			
			
			blazerb  wrote: ↑ Mon Jun 19, 2017 7:01 am 
I've got that cheesy music from "Morality for Youth" in my head after reading this. Am I the only one?
I think that music was intended as a counter balance against funky 70s porn music.
 
		 
				
		
		 
	 
				
		
		
			
				
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								by wtfluff  Mon Jun 19, 2017 7:57 am 
			
			
			
			
			
			20/20hind  wrote: ↑ Sun Jun 18, 2017 2:23 pm SeeNoEvil  wrote: ↑ Sun Jun 18, 2017 12:38 pm 
"Stay in the boat and hold on," - Ballard
See no evil for the win!
The boat is the gospel.  The scriptures are the life vests and the river guides are the prophets and apostles.  
That is how it was portrayed in the info for camp...fun stuff
2020, Make sure you print this out for your wife to use as a "visual aid" around the campfire one night:
 
		 
				
		
		 
	 
				
		
		
			
				
																			
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								by Korihor  Mon Jun 19, 2017 9:20 am 
			
			
			
			
			
			20/20hind  wrote: ↑ Sun Jun 18, 2017 2:23 pm SeeNoEvil  wrote: ↑ Sun Jun 18, 2017 12:38 pm 
"Stay in the boat and hold on," - Ballard
See no evil for the win!
The boat is the gospel.  The scriptures are the life vests and the river guides are the prophets and apostles.  
That is how it was portrayed in the info for camp...fun stuff
So  the boat is an old canoe that could tip over and swamp at any time, the life vest are sun faded, brittle and frequently not properly secured and the river guides are a bunch late tweens that have no idea how the world turns except for that particular river?
Reading can severely damage your ignorance.